Re: Pioneer Trains development thread

[Egg]

Hear, Hear. Shadows make a tremendous difference.

[graymac]

Love the open "sunroof" over the windscreen. Keeps the cab cool on a hot summer day

[mrknowitall]

the "sunroof" hasn't been created yet as we're having trouble deciding on eiher modling to scale and adding the mesh texture to the front face texture, or creating the mesh as a seperate image. so until we decide it will stay a "sun roof"

gives me time for other projects too

still aligning up the neon stripes




the complexity of the front face, probably the most advanced hand coded face yet made for openbve





and the new mk 3 coach

[Dexter]

Nice, how is it on fps? Recently got a new graphics, so I am eager to give it a go.

[mrknowitall]

On NWM im still hitting 57 FPS so its good on them

[Dexter]

Nice!

[mrknowitall]

Well here's the First Hull Trains interior, still need to rip the gc bits out.



now the exterior has had some bits added too




and now had lighting added on both interior and exterior.

[tonytrainsfree1]

the 180 looks geat good job so far

[rick1984]

the best looking british train (at the moment at the least) what they like to travel on?

[mrknowitall]

thanks, and i've been on a few but only in first class which was extremely nice indeed

[James]

the best looking british train (at the moment at the least) what they like to travel on?

They're generally considered the best of the modern DMUs/EMUs for comfort. Nice big seats, plenty of leg room, big windows, good ride quality. They have noticeable engine noise and vibration, but no worse than any other DMU. A bit of break 'squeal' when coming to a stand, but other than that, when they work, they are very good trains.

Unfortunately they have suffered pretty serious reliability problems throughout most of their existence, and have therefore been passed from operator to operator like hot potatoes. Still, from our point of view that means they've appeared in a wide range of geographical locations, so they're good trains to have for BVE - pretty much wherever your route is, you can justify the appearance of a 180!

[Quork]

Looks far better than the Talgo Avril for sure

Not sure what my greatest modern horror is... The Talgo Avril (with 2+3 seating!!!) or the new HS-EMU by Ansaldo Breda+Bombardier... Never seen the latter one, might even be nice, they're quite good about design, but when it comes to reliability and work quality... The producers make me shake in terror.

Love the interior detail. Maybe we need a new plugin for OpenBVE to make it also suitable as a conductor simulator? Tickets please!

[mrknowitall]

Cheers for input Quork, heres a few more interior shots, Adam had let me know a bit more about the detailing of the FHT interior, so here's the updates, plus some outside "lights" added too

[James]

Anything outside the cab usually doesn't interest me much, but I have to say this is great work. Some lovely atmospheric shots too.

[mrknowitall]

Thankyou!

[rick1984]

Just watched avril video and I like the pop down table in middle seat (folds out from dear back)

Always impressed when a180 pelts though peterborough.

[Quork]

Which Avril video? However, tables folding out of the seat in front of you are anything but new. They're standard in all german IC/EC/ICE since looong ago.

2+3 seating is nonsense in my eyes. For long distance runs it is too uncomfortable, for local runs it's to much a mess with getting seated and back up. But the real terror is the outside; it looks like a suffocating trout to me.
http://www.hanseatic-news.de/typo3temp/GB/10a81353af.jpg

But this is getting OT, could some mod sort this into a new thread maybe?

[mrknowitall]

I second that.

[James]

Which Avril video? However, tables folding out of the seat in front of you are anything but new. They're standard in all german IC/EC/ICE since looong ago.

2+3 seating is nonsense in my eyes. For long distance runs it is too uncomfortable, for local runs it's to much a mess with getting seated and back up. But the real terror is the outside; it looks like a suffocating trout to me.

I don't think Rick is talking about tables folding out of the seat in front - they've been standard in the UK for many years too. He's talking about the table folding out of the front of the middle seat of three, so that if there's nobody sitting in it, it can effectively be turned into a table to be used by the people sitting in the seats on either side. It appears in the video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCBjBftY_Kg

I agree about the whole concept of the 2+3 seating on high speed trains though. You really don't want to be crammed between two other people on a long distance train journey.

You're right -this definitely needs a separate thread...

[Quork]

Especially as we can't deny there are more and more fat people and if we don't change much in our society, the trend will go on. There'll be less and not more room.

As to that table; that will be even less stable than the classical table from the front chair, and a table at the side of a chair you can't really sit sidewards in also isn't very practicable...

[rick1984]

That's the one I was on a about cheers.

[mrknowitall]

yh, hows the class 91 getting on

Well after ALOT of fine tuning im ready to show another set of screenshots, this time of the class 91

[mrknowitall]

Well here's the 91 on test before release.



Ben

[tonytrainsfree1]

Well here's the 91 on test before release.



Ben

hi mrknowitall wart route is it and i like the 91 as well

[rick1984]

i can't wait. is a DVT out of the question?

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