OpenBVE signal problem

Hi, I have tried to google around a bit and learn more about how oopenbve renders objects but I could not figure out a little issue that recently showed up. I may not be the only one since it looks like there was a similar post on the openbve forum ... but it's gone.

Anyway let's see if someone can shed some light on this. I ran openbve in Ubuntu and it used to be just fine. Than, I guess since upgrading the OS and therefore mono and the libraries, I don't see the signals facing me anymore. 2/3 or 4 ... I can see the pole, the whole object, but not the front panel with the light. And that's true regardless of using the version from the repositories (1.4.0.9) or download and run latest stable (1.4.1.2).


Interesting LU signals work just fine but not UK rail ones. And again this is true for all the rails including Birmingham X South downloaded (Dec 2010) or from the repositories (June 2010). What really strikes me is that all other objects are OK and signal do work (alas invisibly) since if I pass a closed one I am noticed of that.

I would like to dig in to see if I can find the bug and fix it but no luck so far with my investigation.

Could that be forgotten Alpha in a png texture?

More likely a linux specific problem or a folder structure one. No reported loading errors are mentioned, which could perhaps give a clue.

Well, in that case could be sth like lower case and UPPER CASE, ors slash - backslash issue...

It used to work before but yours are good suggestions and I'll try to set up a couple of VM and see if I can get to the bottom of it.
Yes to me it looked the alpha of it .... but again same files, same tree was fine before .....

The route viewer gives no loading errors (and shows no signal).... I will try to figure it out where openbve logs loading errors now.

It's definitely Ubuntu 12.04 vs 11.10 since the latter (in a VM) doesn't have the issue. Here is the signal in his full splendor.





Openbve is the same but the libraries do change .... let's see if I can pin it down.

Also, the safety system seems to have been replaced by ATS-P. Good work, Network Rail! /end sarcasm

Could that mean a plug-in missing?

graymac wrote:Could that mean a plug-in missing?

No win32 plug-ins are disabled in non-windows operating systems.

But you can change the ats.cfg data to this:

Code:

UkTrainSys.dll

if that hasn't happened yet.

Well the difference is on the train. The two screen shots share the same route / openbve but the first one has the linux plugini. I haven't bothered install it in the second one.

I'm having the same issue with the Birmingham route (signals not showing up but still working, invisibly), on my Mac version of OpenBVE. Other routes using the same train/plugin work fine (i.e. the NWM routes) but not this one. Did you manage to find what the problem was?

Interesting. I have isolated the problem to some mono libraries (but I have to figure out which one). I am going to try the NWM route and let you know.

Hm, is it possible in that case that using an older version of Mono (and an appropriately older version of OpenBVE) would get around this problem for now?

It does for me Riggzy. I have just to use older mono libraries (with the same OpenBVE) to solve it.

if the images for the signals are PNG, Convert them to BMP

Cool - What version of Mono are you using?

(and btw, at time of writing, the current version is 2.10.9 )

OK the working one is this one:

Code:

Mono JIT compiler version 2.10.5 (Debian 2.10.5-1)
Copyright (C) 2002-2011 Novell, Inc, Xamarin, Inc and Contributors. www.mono-project.com
   TLS:          __thread
   SIGSEGV:      altstack
   Notifications: epoll
   Architecture:  amd64
   Disabled:      none
   Misc:          softdebug
   LLVM:          supported, not enabled.
   GC:            Included Boehm (with typed GC and Parallel Mark)


while the one with the issue is:

Code:

Mono JIT compiler version 2.10.8.1 (Debian 2.10.8.1-1ubuntu2.1)
Copyright (C) 2002-2011 Novell, Inc, Xamarin, Inc and Contributors. www.mono-project.com
   TLS:          __thread
   SIGSEGV:      altstack
   Notifications: epoll
   Architecture:  amd64
   Disabled:      none
   Misc:          softdebug
   LLVM:          supported, not enabled.
   GC:            Included Boehm (with typed GC and Parallel Mark)


But my personal take is that it has to do with a specific library I am trying to figure out which one....

No bug:

Code:


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Bug:

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Well, I'm glad it works for you but no luck for me it seems. Possibly a different issue, then. Here's the closest Mono build I could find for Mac:

Code:

Mono JIT compiler version 2.10.5 (tarball Mon Aug 22 20:38:08 EDT 2011)
Copyright (C) 2002-2011 Novell, Inc, Xamarin, Inc and Contributors. www.mono-project.com
   TLS:          normal
   SIGSEGV:      normal
   Notification:  kqueue
   Architecture:  x86
   Disabled:      none
   Misc:          debugger softdebug
   LLVM:          yes(2.9svn-mono)
   GC:            Included Boehm (with typed GC)

And here's the wonderful Barnt Green platform signal:

Do you have a folder called Br_sigs in your objects folder?

The Object folder is called BrSigs (no underscore) and it is under Bham_X-City_South ( Object\Bham_X-City_South\BrSigs\ )
i.e.
Bham_X-City_South\BrSigs\signal3

although there are signal refenced also under Day\Commonfiles and other locations.

Anyway the exact same route works smoothly under a previous version of mono (same OpenBve) so the bug has to be related to the mono version...

I have exactly the same problem, no signals except for in the nwm routes. just tried installing older mono (10.5) and now open bve won't launch.... running on a mac book pro.... any ideas?

right well i think i know my problem... I do not have the correct brsigs/br semaphors installed. THis download is unavailable, does anybody know where i can get this? would be much appreciated....