City and South London Railway

It looks like a good piece of work, pity the conversion is difficult...

Wongie2009 wrote:

busheyheath wrote:I once made this train for use in MSTS, but it seems impossible to convert the train to OpenBVE.

Do you have the original MSTS train? I might be able to help.

Of course I have the original files. I will send you a PM, maybe you can help me out, it would save me weeks or months of work!

I think the conversion could be pretty simple, There was a program released that could convert .s files (used by MSTS & I have the program) into a .3ds file that was intended for converting MSTS stuff into Railworks.

But with the .3ds file you could in theory put into Blender and export into .b3d for use in openBVE, It could require some rebuilding of the mesh (Transparency's etc) though.

Cheers,
Chris

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Thank you all for your kind answers. I would need the object as an object, but also as a start to make a train. The 360' 3D cab I will have to make myself...

graymac wrote:Maybe use a bit of fog in the tunnels?? The atmosphere down there at the time would not have been particularly pure!

(I recall a quote being made about the Glasgow Subway pre modernisation in an old film, that it had it's own 'atmosphere' (as well as being thought of jokingly as a train-set railway for Glasgow. XD )

I may imitate the looks, not the smells....

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Wongie2009 wrote:I do hope this video would give you a sense of atmosphere and darkness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23s4Xbqnek (Embedding disabled, unfortunately)

If any route developer is up for doing a Retro version of the 'Subway' pre modernisation, LMK .

Wongie2009 wrote:I do hope this video would give you a sense of atmosphere and darkness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23s4Xbqnek (Embedding disabled, unfortunately)

Going off on a tangent re the Glasgow Subway - There is also this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDEEgcQPte8&feature=related

Apparently a new round of modernisation is planned... Hmmm...

alex_farlie wrote:

Wongie2009 wrote:I do hope this video would give you a sense of atmosphere and darkness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23s4Xbqnek (Embedding disabled, unfortunately)

If any route developer is up for doing a Retro version of the 'Subway' pre modernisation, LMK .

Electric or cable-hauled?
(aka 1896-1935 or 1935-1977)

Drag0nflamez wrote:

alex_farlie wrote:

Wongie2009 wrote:I do hope this video would give you a sense of atmosphere and darkness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f23s4Xbqnek (Embedding disabled, unfortunately)

If any route developer is up for doing a Retro version of the 'Subway' pre modernisation, LMK .

Electric or cable-hauled?
(aka 1896-1935 or 1935-1977)

I mean the electric era, as that's the one for which visual reference material is likely to exist.

A good resemblance with the CSLR route I think. The station is something like Clapham North. Does anyone know the size of the Glasgow tunnels?

busheyheath wrote:A good resemblance with the CSLR route I think. The station is something like Clapham North. Does anyone know the size of the Glasgow tunnels?

Well there was an existing Glasgow Subway Route for BVE2, although I'm not sure it's entirely true to the original.

Perhaps an enquiry to the Glasgow Transport Museum?

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Found! Glasgow has 4 ft track in 11 ft tunnels. Only 12 cm bigger than the original CSLR ones....

Glasgow's system is also cut-and-cover, strangely.. you would expect larger tunnels with the method...

They seem to have 2 different systems: an old cut/cover one and the circular drilled one.

busheyheath wrote:They seem to have 2 different systems: an old cut/cover one and the circular drilled one.

The cut and cover tunnels are the 'Glasgow Central Railway' which is mainline guage, and in part is now the 'Argyle' Line.

The bored tunnels of 11ft are the Glasgow (District) Subway, a different railway from the Glasgow Central

More on Wikipedia ...

What's this then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16176720
(image no. 8 )

Drag0nflamez wrote:What's this then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16176720
(image no. 8 )

Ah, OK...

That's the Subway.. Hmm, maybe it's not as deep as I thought ..

alex_farlie wrote:

Drag0nflamez wrote:What's this then?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16176720
(image no. 8 )

Ah, OK...

That's the Subway.. Hmm, maybe it's not as deep as I thought ..

Except the tunnels under the river, of course.

But I still wonder why they used tube-and-cover if the tunneling shield worked to build the C&SLR, Thames Tunnel and Tower Subway (and 2 years after the Glasgow Subway the W&CR)

At least they could have used larger tubes?

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That's good news! When I know how to build a vehicle with moving bogies I will try to rebuild the wagon myself...

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