OpenBve not starting, forever loading

Hi, I have a bizarre issue after many years of successfully running OpenBve.

I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 24.04 and I installed OpenBve from the official deb file (version 1.10.0.1).
It launches fine but whenever I choose a route/train combo it stops on this screen at 0%
where it says it is loading the route.

Strangely enough the log shows that the route has been loaded and so the train.

Code:

OpenBVE Log: 02/05/2024 19:16:37
Program Version: v1.10.0.1

Attached Joysticks:
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19:16:37  Using openGL 3.0 (new) renderer
19:16:37  Initialising game window of size 960 x 600
19:16:37  Creating game window with standard context.
19:16:37  Game window initialised successfully.
19:16:37  Renderer initialised successfully.
19:16:37  /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway : Railway folder found.
19:16:37  INFO: 2 Route loading plugins available.
19:16:37  INFO: 6 Object loading plugins available.
19:16:37  INFO: 2 Sound loading plugins available.
19:16:37  Load in Advance is enabled
19:16:37  Loading route file: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:37  INFO: Route file hash 4B9F8E593DC479D3395A82CEDFB7EBC3835A4E993D871DF515982C4D5F419875
19:16:37  Route file format is: CSV
19:16:37  INFO: Using the Japanese compatibility signal set.
19:16:50  RailIndex 3 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 1744, column 13 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 3 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 1752, column 13 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 2 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 1951, column 17 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 0 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2084, column 4 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 4 does not reference an existing wall in Track.WallEnd at line 2196, column 4 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 1 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2291, column 24 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 0 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2635, column 3 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 2 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2827, column 15 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 0 does not reference an existing wall in Track.WallEnd at line 2999, column 10 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 3 does not reference an existing wall in Track.WallEnd at line 2999, column 12 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 0 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2999, column 14 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 1 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2999, column 15 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 2 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2999, column 16 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 3 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 2999, column 17 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 1 does not reference an existing wall in Track.WallEnd at line 3007, column 4 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 9 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 3053, column 2 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 9 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 3063, column 3 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 4 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 3063, column 4 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:50  RailIndex 1 does not reference an existing dike in Track.DikeEnd at line 3083, column 36 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Birmingham_Cross-City_South_openBVE/Dawn/323_Summer_2002_0625_Clear.csv
19:16:51  Route file loaded successfully.
19:16:51  Loading player train: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve
19:16:51  a0 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 7 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 7 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 7 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v2 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 7 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a0 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 8 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 8 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 8 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v2 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 8 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a0 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 9 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 9 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 9 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v2 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 9 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a0 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 10 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  a1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 10 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v1 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 10 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  v2 in section #ACCELERATION is expected to be greater than zero at line 10 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  The #ACCELERATION section defines 8 curves, but the #HANDLE section defines 4 power notches in /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/train.dat
19:16:51  Loading train panel: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/panel.animated
19:16:51  INFO: This train contains both a 2D and a 3D panel. The 3D panel will always take precedence
19:16:52  Train panel loaded sucessfully.
19:16:52  Loading sound.cfg file: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/sound.cfg
19:16:52  The #ACCELERATION section defines 0 curves, but the #HANDLE section defines 8 power notches in /usr/lib/openbve/Data/Compatibility/PreTrain/train.dat
19:16:52  Loading train plugin: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/Cl323 Unrefurb_openbve/UkTrainSys.dll
19:16:52  Train plugin loaded successfully.

This was a route/train that always worked ... and if on the same machine I launch an "uninstalled" version on OpenBve 1.5 it loads fine.

This happens with every route/train combo but if use the Animated Object Demonstration Route available in the extra then it partially loads:

Here it stops and hangs at 54%

Code:

OpenBVE Log: 02/05/2024 19:21:10
Program Version: v1.10.0.1

Attached Joysticks:
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19:21:10  Using openGL 3.0 (new) renderer
19:21:10  Initialising game window of size 960 x 600
19:21:10  Creating game window with standard context.
19:21:10  Game window initialised successfully.
19:21:10  Renderer initialised successfully.
19:21:10  /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway : Railway folder found.
19:21:10  INFO: 2 Route loading plugins available.
19:21:10  INFO: 6 Object loading plugins available.
19:21:10  INFO: 2 Sound loading plugins available.
19:21:10  Load in Advance is enabled
19:21:10  Loading route file: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Animated Object Demonstration Route.csv
19:21:10  INFO: Route file hash 781D7188186D680070A9B9CDA5DF27EE1AE186017AE2DAD5212469601E06088F
19:21:10  Route file format is: CSV
19:21:10  INFO: Using the Japanese compatibility signal set.
19:21:11  FileName null.b3d not found in Rail at line 26, column 1 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Animated Object Demonstration Route.csv
19:21:11  RailStructureIndex 4 references an object not loaded in RailType at line 157, column 1 in file /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Railway/Route/Animated Object Demonstration Route.csv
19:21:11  Route file loaded successfully.
19:21:11  Loading player train: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/1992TS
19:21:11  Loading train panel: /home/briga/.config/OpenBve/LegacyContent/Train/1992TS/panel2.cfg
19:21:31  Attempted to create an invalid size element
19:21:51  Attempted to create an invalid size element
19:22:11  Attempted to create an invalid size element
19:22:31  Attempted to create an invalid size element
19:22:51  Attempted to create an invalid size element
19:23:12  Attempted to create an invalid size element

Anyone can point me in any direction (I tried downgrading to 1.10.0.0 and 1.9 but no luck)?

On the command line there are no errors or warnings.

Thanks

Is this an AMD graphics card by any chance?

If it is, the official drivers seem to trigger this randomly on some systems.
I've not got one, so I can't be more specific than that.

Indeed is AMD based with standard opensource drivers.
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840U w/ Radeon 780M Graphics × 16

This is the symptom reported by me when I tried to load a data on github but was unable to read it even after an hour.
I am experiencing the exact same symptoms on 22.04.
(Radeon RX590)
Sometimes it gets fixed by an update, sometimes it gets messed up again.
However, I haven't been able to report it because I don't know which update is triggering it.
I think it started around December 2023.
I was planning to do a clean install on 24.04 and report it if that didn't work.
But your testing was not well, isn't it?
To avoid this, I run it on Wine.
The most serious problem is that when I run it in debug mode in monodevelop, monodevelop crashes and I can't verify anything.
There were no problems with Ubuntu 20.04 + OpenBVE 1.10.1.1 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060. I have not installed 22.04 on this PC, so I have not verified it, but I will install it and verify it if necessary.

I was planning to do a clean install on 24.04 and report it if that didn't work.
But your testing was not well, isn't it?

Indeed, I tested it. Two different PCs (both AMD) with fresh 24.04 and none works (albeit the second stops at 1%, the first one at 0%).

I'll try wine!

Please note that there are several steps required to run with Wine.

Code:

sudo apt install wine
sudo apt install winetricks
winetricks

The WINE MONO installer and more one program will be executed.
Exit when the menu screen appears.

Code:

sudo winetricks --self-update
WINEPREFIX=~/.WineOpenBVE wineboot
WINEPREFIX=~/.WineOpenBVE winetricks -q dotnet48

To run:

Code:

WINEPREFIX=~/.WineOpenBVE wine ~/your_extracted_folder/OpenBve.exe

RouteViewer and other programs should also use
WINEPREFIX=~/.WineOpenBVE wine ***.exe.
However, only OpenBve.exe does not work, so the others should be fine with mono.