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Celtic Trainsim: Irish Train Class 2700-2 DMU

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Post by Terrence1946 Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:02 am

Scenario:

Celtic Trainsim: Irish Train Class 2700-2 DMU Ir310

Tried using Class 2700-2 DMU but there is a problem when this train arrives at stations; the notification of arrival and departure does not appear when the train stops.  Of course, this can be ignored but, after departure of train, a notification of failure to stop at the station shows:

Celtic Trainsim: Irish Train Class 2700-2 DMU Ir410

Not a big deal but could this be a bug? 

I must say I'm really impressed with the Irish routes and trains and it all works extremely well although I did run over a piece of track that was missing on one of the routes!  Still, very enjoyable simulations.

Terry.

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Post by Quork Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:25 am

It means you didn't stop at the right stop position. There are no stop markers in Ireland, but you'll find Graymac put colourful luggage on all platforms. Those are the stop markers you have to observe
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Post by Terrence1946 Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:11 pm

Quork wrote:It means you didn't stop at the right stop position. There are no stop markers in Ireland, but you'll find Graymac put colourful luggage on all platforms. Those are the stop markers you have to observe
Not so sir as you will see from the screenshot below. Furthermore, there is no problem with the Class 2800 DMU unit which works as it should do.

Celtic Trainsim: Irish Train Class 2700-2 DMU Ir110

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Post by graymac Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:42 pm

Try manually opening the doors when the train comes to a standstill. You can see when doors are open when a tab at the bottom of the window pops up (marked ?) - it's not there on your screenshot and the drcls light (marked !) is lit, which indicates the doors are shut. Manual operation keybd F5-left / F6-right.
Celtic Trainsim: Irish Train Class 2700-2 DMU Drcls10
Most of my trains have automatic doors, this one hasn't, to give the driver more work!!
(take it up with the union!!) Wink
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Post by Terrence1946 Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:54 pm

graymac wrote:Try manually opening the doors when the train comes to a standstill. You can see when doors are open when a tab at the bottom of the window pops up (marked ?) - it's not there on your screenshot and the drcls light (marked !) is lit, which indicates the doors are shut. Manual operation keybd F5-left / F6-right.
Celtic Trainsim: Irish Train Class 2700-2 DMU Drcls10
Most of my trains have automatic doors, this one hasn't, to give the driver more work!!
(take it up with the union!!) Wink
Thanks! Should have realised this but I have got used to automatic door operation on most simulations. One other point, I take it that a buzzer response to the guard on 'right away' is not available on these trains or am I wrong about that?

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Post by graymac Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:51 pm

When there's only a driver (who has to work the doors)
where is the guard to sound the buzzer???
Q.E.D.   Smile
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Post by leezer3 Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:37 pm

I suppose a reminder notification to operate the manual doors if in an appropriate position could be added?

Anyone with any strong feelings on the subject; Almost feels like a nag....

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Post by Quork Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:48 pm

Given the fact it's hard to tell if you've found the stop position ingame, that wouldn't be bad... In real life, missing the stop position doesn't mean you've missed the stop, as long as all doors are at the platform there's no problem. You'd never ever drive in reverse to correct the position...
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Post by Terrence1946 Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:16 am

graymac wrote:When there's only a driver (who has to work the doors)
where is the guard to sound the buzzer???
Q.E.D.   Smile
You are absolutely right about driver only operation on the Class 2700 but what about the Class 2800 where door operation is handled by the 'guard'? There does not appear to be a driver response to the guard's buzzer!  I tried to use '6' key but nothing happened.  Of course there are other trains and other simulations where this facility appears to be missing.  I only mention this in case there is an alternative key to press which I don't know about. Laughing Laughing

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Post by leezer3 Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:26 am

Quork wrote:Given the fact it's hard to tell if you've found the stop position ingame, that wouldn't be bad... In real life, missing the stop position doesn't mean you've missed the stop, as long as all doors are at the platform there's no problem. You'd never ever drive in reverse to correct the position...

I wouldn't say never, ever.

In this country it's permissable to backup from a slight overshoot with permission from the signaller (Can't think of the form number off the top of my head), but it's a paperwork intensive process with I'm sure consequences further down the line :p

More usual would be a partial door release for those doors on the platform, although I'm sure if reported again there would be consequences.

Going O/T thoigh.....

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Post by Quork Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:13 am

Yeah, right, but there's no way of getting this paperwork done in OpenBVE. Also I was talking about the case of overshooting the stop position but *not* the platform. In that case, there's no point in doing the paperwork... And even in the case of overshooting the platform partially it usually isn't worth the effort. I overshot a platform by three or four coaches once and we did the passenger exchange by emergency opening two doors (there were two guards only) which were at the platform. Trust me, it's one of the cases where you wish you had a paper bag with peepholes in it when getting off the locomotive later...
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