Removing Black or Blue Rectangles from behind Objects

Hope you've all had a great Christmas and looking forward to the New Year. My query is simply this - how can you remove the annoying black, sometimes blue or dark brown rectangles from behind some of the objects (mainly trees, shrubs and bushes) particularly in BVE 4 Routes. Other annoying features are the grey rectangular shapes "behind" the tops of the catenaries. Have tried to do this myself, but either end up removing the whole object (tree, bush etc) or end up with a white rectangle which hides the scenery behind it. There must be a simple solution, any ideas???

Cheers,

John

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Thanks Wongie, but that's all gobbledigook to me, perhaps you could explain to me how you do that......?


Cheers,

John

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Each texture has a file related to it. The texture (image) should be in RGB mode for it to work properly.

So if the image background is black, after the image is loaded in a CSV file, it should say
SetDecalTransparentColor,0,0,0,

However in a B3D file it should say
Transparent 0,0,0

If the image background is blue the values are 0,0,255

One of the problems with old routes is sometimes one or more of the values is set to 256, and OBVE complains about this as an error.

The you get the texture that no matter what you do still presents a black square, in which case what I do is make it blackest black with my "paint program"; for example People17 is very annoying in certain routes.

that's all gobbledigook to me,

This is to let "clueless newbies" know that the person using the "gobbledigook" is a "leet programmer". The fact that the "clueless newbie" might find it "weird and disturbing" doesn't filter up to their elevated level.

You could try "The Eejits Guide to Object Building" available at GrayMac's site. This doesn't use "gobbledigook".

http://www.celtictrainsim.com/

P.S. For "weird and disturbing" read "cold, unwelcoming, and unfriendly to newcomers" and yet they wonder why there is nobody rushing forward to become developers.

92220 wrote:
If the image background is blue the values are 0,0,225

*cough* 255, surely.....

*cough* 255, surely.....

Yea. that's a great idea. Thanks for being awake. I'm obviously not. Need more coffee.

And chips!!!!

This problem is only found in BVE4 era routes as the problem is due to the way that BVE4 can accept transparent "marker" colours that aren't quite the right shade of Blue, Black, Green, etc. No one really knows why this is the case, but that's irrelevant really.
To fix the problem, there are 2 options available to you.
1, Download the openBVE compatible version if there is one which, shouldn't have the issue.
2, If the route doesn't/ wont get and openBVE version. Your left with correcting the transparent "marker" colour yourself. It's complicated to explain but not actually that hard to do, just time consuming if their are lots of textures to do.

1, Navigate to the object folder for the route, found in the openBVE folder under "routes/objects".
2, Open a texture with a photoeditor like paint.net (its free to download), best to start with the first in the list.
3, If its got a transparent area (the blue, black or green etc) you need to change the colour to one of the following RGB values(Depending on the colour).
For Blue use RGB Value: 0,0,255
For Green use 0,255,0
For Red use 255,0,0
for Black use 0,0,0
4, Save the change and do the same for all the textures in that folder and any sub folders present.

Thanks very much for all that advice - I'm going to have a go at this and will let you all know of the outcome.

Cheers,

John

I have modified many routes from BVE 4 to openBVE. I use the Czech programme Zoner Photo Studio (ZPS) which is able to show not only the image of the object but also appropriate file .csv or b3d. I open the file .csv and if the the colour is defined as 0,0,255 and you see blue colour which is not transparent, it means that the author used blue colour but a little darker or lighter. It is necesary to edit the colour. It means that I select blue colour 0,0,255 and replace with this correct colour not correct blue.
The problem is that it takes some time, I modified for example one route with many objects 3 hours, it needs "lead backside".
Sorry for my not perfect English!

Anyway, you got the hang of it now!

Thank You for your suggestions Vpodhola, which, given time, I'll have an attempt at solving. Your English is excellent and is much better than my Czech...!

Regards,


John

johnsinden wrote:
Thank You for your suggestions Vpodhola, which, given time, I'll have an attempt at solving. Your English is excellent and is much better than my Czech...!

Regards,
John

Nice.

Thanks Derryck! If only I'd known that before I "fixed" the textures in Clarendon.

Either way would work.
For me changing the colour makes more sense, I think it would be the quicker method but do whichever is easiest for you.